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		<title>Martinwguy at 08:58, 24 September 2013</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[A visit to the Manchester archive]] is a 2009 message by [[Martin Guy]] to the Delia Derbyshire mailing list by describing his first visit to the [[University of Manchester]] to meet [[David Butler]], listen to some of Delia's [[Attic Tapes]] and view her [[Attic Papers]]. It contains a few scraps of information from the papers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://lists.topica.com/lists/Delia/read/message.html?mid=813588754 &amp;quot;A visit to the Manchster archive&amp;quot; archived at topica.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=Transcript=&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;PRE&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
A visit to the Manchster [sic] archive&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Martin Guy, Aug 30, 2009 10:56 PDT &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hi!&lt;br /&gt;
   A few weeks ago I gathered my dole money together and forked out&lt;br /&gt;
for a train ticket to Manchester.&lt;br /&gt;
   David Butler turns out to be a perfectly likeable chap. I arrived&lt;br /&gt;
at about midday, found the university campus and he invited me to&lt;br /&gt;
dinner in an anonymous cafe nearby, then we returned to his centre to&lt;br /&gt;
get down to business.&lt;br /&gt;
The Delia Attic Tapes consist of 267 physical tapes, which I didn't&lt;br /&gt;
bother viewing, and a supermarket-type box of manilla folders brim&lt;br /&gt;
full of her own notes, various letters, newspaper articles and sheets&lt;br /&gt;
of synthesizer settings for her pieces. She seems to have been very&lt;br /&gt;
methodical about keeping the documentation relevant to each piece in&lt;br /&gt;
order.&lt;br /&gt;
   Most of the visit we spent sitting in a stuffy room while he played&lt;br /&gt;
me various pieces form the archive off his laptop, sucking the files&lt;br /&gt;
from a server on the local network.&lt;br /&gt;
He showed me a table in a word document listing the tapes, numbered&lt;br /&gt;
from DD001 to DD267, with notes describing their labels and presumed&lt;br /&gt;
contents. This is as close as they get to a catalogue of the archive,&lt;br /&gt;
and unfortunately it has not been made public.&lt;br /&gt;
   Her music for the Brighton festival is there, consisting of a&lt;br /&gt;
medley of other pieces, but not just a concatenation of pieces, but&lt;br /&gt;
wth a careful blending and &amp;quot;bridges&amp;quot; between the themes. I asked him&lt;br /&gt;
for a copy but he blustered about &amp;quot;I could into trouble&amp;quot;. Sigh.&lt;br /&gt;
One of the tapes is a recording of a radio broadcast that includes a&lt;br /&gt;
few seconds of the lost Bermange &amp;quot;Evenings of Certain Lives&amp;quot; piece.&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately the excerpt is only a few tens of seconds and consists&lt;br /&gt;
mostly of untreated spoken voice.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The box of papers is staggering. It contains her original &amp;quot;dope&lt;br /&gt;
sheets&amp;quot; for the VCS3 which give the exact settings used to create the&lt;br /&gt;
sounds for various pieces. More importantly, it is a record of many&lt;br /&gt;
pieces of music that she worked on, which are otherwise unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
   Let me give a few examples that I managed to jot down while David&lt;br /&gt;
sat working on something else. From my scribbled notes:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
25 April 1963&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;To: Associated British Picture Corporation&lt;br /&gt;
For creating the &amp;quot;In a Monastery Garden&amp;quot; sequence of &amp;quot;The Cracksman&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
The instrument is an Eb safe-unlocking mechanism&lt;br /&gt;
Hope you like it&lt;br /&gt;
      Delia Derbyshire&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The Evenings of Certain Lives, broadcast on the Third Programme, 8:45&lt;br /&gt;
Sept 9 1965&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Amor Dei: A Vision of God&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;An ABC in Sound&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
10 July 1966, her address is 46 Downshire Hill, London NW3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1 Jan 1968, re: Music for &amp;quot;Work is a Four-Letter word&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
From: Delia Derbyshire&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;It was delightful to work on but didn't cover the costs of the studio&lt;br /&gt;
- a paper loss of 350 pounds.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Music for 'I measured the skies', a BBC2 biography of Johann Kepler.&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks from John Glenister&lt;br /&gt;
10 March 1970&lt;br /&gt;
From John Glenister to D. Briscoe: &amp;quot;His primitive ideas on 'The&lt;br /&gt;
Harmony of the Spheres' were realized with incredible sensitivity and&lt;br /&gt;
emotive power by Delia's music. Please pass on my sincere thanks and&lt;br /&gt;
admiration&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
8 July 1970&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The Bagman, or, 'The Imprompu of Muswell Hill' entered by the BBC for&lt;br /&gt;
the Italia Prize 1970&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The Dark Ages&amp;quot; by Bernard Kips&lt;br /&gt;
1 May 8:00 on the Third Programmme, to be repeated May 17.&lt;br /&gt;
The third part of a trilogy:&lt;br /&gt;
1. Home Sweet Home&lt;br /&gt;
2. The Lemmings&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
26 Aug 1970, Letter from Delia to Pierre Henry&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Noting your interest in unusual time signatures I wonder whether you&lt;br /&gt;
know the music of &amp;quot;Soft Machine&amp;quot;, a jazz-oriented pop group who&lt;br /&gt;
specialise in these.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
Ref: Philips 4FE 8004&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Barry Bermange: 5 colours&lt;br /&gt;
19-23 August:&lt;br /&gt;
   19 August: tapes dubbed into categories&lt;br /&gt;
   20:&lt;br /&gt;
   21-23: organise music&lt;br /&gt;
26-30: each section treated and mixed with music&lt;br /&gt;
2-6 september: sections put together&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday September 3rd 1970&lt;br /&gt;
Woman's Guardian newspaper article&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;She read maths at Girton where Judy Innes, the fashion writer, Andrew&lt;br /&gt;
Sinclair, novelist and historian and Peter Cook were at residence in&lt;br /&gt;
Cambridge&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous photograph of the Unit Delta Plus racks of equipment is&lt;br /&gt;
pasted into the back of the programme of their &amp;quot;Concert of Electronic&lt;br /&gt;
Music&amp;quot; and is credited to Carolyn Clarke as &amp;quot;Part of the Studio of&lt;br /&gt;
Unit Delta Plus&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Electric Storm, ILPS 9099, is reviewed (negatively!) in &amp;quot;Time Out&lt;br /&gt;
in London, Sat Sept 27 - Sat Oct 11&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;She is the only surviving daughter of a sheet-metal worker in Coventry&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
David Butler seems to be a frightened man who doesn't understand the&lt;br /&gt;
cultural importance of the works given into his care. He spoke of how,&lt;br /&gt;
after the publication of the article about the &amp;quot;Lost tapes of the Dr&lt;br /&gt;
Who composer&amp;quot;, he recieved emails from several musicians who had&lt;br /&gt;
created derivative works of that music, and how that had driven him&lt;br /&gt;
over the edge into a nervous breakdown in which he contracted shingles&lt;br /&gt;
and &amp;quot;nearly died&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
As we left the room, he looked terrified, clutching his laptop to&lt;br /&gt;
his chest as if he feared I might snatch it off him, and as I stepped&lt;br /&gt;
outside into the free air, a great sadness descended onto me.&lt;br /&gt;
   It seems to me that this small academic is only interested in the&lt;br /&gt;
Delia archive as a way to get funding into his department, the malaise&lt;br /&gt;
of British academia since the 1990s. He talks of nothing but getting&lt;br /&gt;
funding and posts (an MSc and an archivist) on the strength of it but&lt;br /&gt;
shows no understanding of what he. following in the footsteps of Mark&lt;br /&gt;
Ayres, is sitting on.&lt;br /&gt;
An obsure Italian monk put it well in 1592: &amp;quot;He who finds a treasure&lt;br /&gt;
and does not make it manifest for the common good damages the&lt;br /&gt;
collective wealth&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
That seems o be the status of this treasure trove of Delia's unheard&lt;br /&gt;
music. May history prove me wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    M &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/PRE&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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