Ways of Seeing - Revision history

Martinwguy: /* Availability */

2025-12-29T14:54:35Z

Availability

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	* In the BBC Sound Archive on tape [[TRW 7448]].<ref>The [[Tape Library List]]'s entry for [[TRW 7448]].</ref>		* In the BBC Sound Archive on tape [[TRW 7448]].<ref>The [[Tape Library List]]'s entry for [[TRW 7448]].</ref>
	* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jTUebm73IY ''Ways of Seeing'', part 4] on youtube.com		* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jTUebm73IY ''Ways of Seeing'', part 4] on youtube.com
	* [[File:John Berger Ways of Seeing.torrent]]		* [[File:John Berger Ways of Seeing.torrent]] as redistributed in the USA by Films Incorporated
	* Three dreams:		* Three dreams:
	{{Play\|Ways of Seeing - Three Dreams}}		{{Play\|Ways of Seeing - Three Dreams}}

Martinwguy: /* Track list */

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Track list

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	=Track list=		=Track list=

			Part 2:

			* 00:53-04:02 Choral texture. See [[DD272#James_Percival's_notes]]

	Part 4:		Part 4:

Martinwguy: /* Track list */

2025-12-29T14:25:49Z

Track list

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	=Track list=		=Track list=
	* 05:50-09:30 "Publicity impersonates painting" (uninspired slow monophonic synth solo, probably Malcolm Clarke, not Delia)
	* 09:53-10:31 "Publicity and oil painting use many of the same references" (similar piece for two voices)		Part 4:
	* 13:42-16:00 Perfume bottling factory rhythmic loop
	* 16:00-16:30 "The more monotonous the present, the more the imagination must seize upon the future" (ethereal chords similar to Amor Dei)		* 07:07-10:48 "Publicity impersonates painting" (uninspired slow monophonic synth solo, probably Malcolm Clarke, not Delia)
	* 16~~:42~~-17:45 The Dream of Later Tonight		* 11:12-11:52 "Publicity and oil painting use many of the same references" (similar piece for two voices)
	* 17:52-18:33 The Skin Dream		* 15:10-17:34 Perfume bottling factory rhythmic loop
	* 19:03-20:18 The Dream of a Faraway Place		* 17:36-18:06 "The more monotonous the present, the more the imagination must seize upon the future" (ethereal chords similar to Amor Dei)
			* 18:16-19:25 The Dream of Later Tonight
			* 19:32-20:38 The Skin Dream
			* 20:38-22:05 The Dream of a Faraway Place

	=Analysis=		=Analysis=

Martinwguy: /* Spectrograms */

2023-02-19T21:48:09Z

Spectrograms

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	==Episode 2 intro==		==Episode 2 intro==
	{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing - Episode 2 intro}}		{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing - Episode 2 intro}}
	==Intro==		==The Three Dreams Used In Advertising==
			===Intro===
	{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing 0 - Intro}}		{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing 0 - Intro}}
	==The Dream of Later Tonight==		===The Dream of Later Tonight===
	{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing 1 - The Dream of Later Tonight}}		{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing 1 - The Dream of Later Tonight}}
	==The Skin Dream==		===The Skin Dream===
	{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing 2 - The Skin Dream}}		{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing 2 - The Skin Dream}}
	==The Dream of a Faraway Place==		===The Dream of a Faraway Place===
	{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing 3 - The Dream of a Faraway Place}}		{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing 3 - The Dream of a Faraway Place}}

Martinwguy at 21:36, 19 February 2023

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	</PRE>		</PRE>

	The first ~~two~~ minutes of episode 2<ref>[http://www.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b7868a01b ''Ways of Seeing'', part 2] on youtube.com</ref> also have a radiophonic background<ref>Thanks to Alex J for spotting this.</ref> which		The first three minutes of episode 2<ref>[http://www.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b7868a01b ''Ways of Seeing'', part 2] on youtube.com</ref> also have a radiophonic background<ref>Thanks to Alex J for spotting this.</ref> which
	sounds like two chords of an orchestral piece slowed down, maybe to a quarter		sounds like two chords of an orchestral piece slowed down, maybe to a quarter
	of its original speed.		of its original speed.
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	=[[Spectrograms]]=		=[[Spectrograms]]=
			==Episode 2 intro==
			{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing - Episode 2 intro}}
	==Intro==		==Intro==
	{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing 0 - Intro}}		{{Spectrogallery\|Ways of Seeing 0 - Intro}}

Martinwguy: /* Tapes */

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Tapes

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 =Tapes=
 * [[DD272]]: Backgrounds
 =Availability=

Martinwguy: /* Tapes */

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Tapes

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	=Tapes=		=Tapes=
	* [[DD062]]: "Ways of Seeing, many takes".
	* [[DD272]]: Backgrounds		* [[DD272]]: Backgrounds

Martinwguy at 09:40, 30 September 2021

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	=Tapes=		=Tapes=
			* [[DD062]]: "Ways of Seeing, many takes".
	* [[DD272]]: Backgrounds		* [[DD272]]: Backgrounds

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	** on BBC4 on 1st October 2008 at 19.30		** on BBC4 on 1st October 2008 at 19.30
	* In the BBC Sound Archive on tape [[TRW 7448]].<ref>The [[Tape Library List]]'s entry for [[TRW 7448]].</ref>		* In the BBC Sound Archive on tape [[TRW 7448]].<ref>The [[Tape Library List]]'s entry for [[TRW 7448]].</ref>
	* On [[Attic Tape]] [[DD062]]: "Ways of Seeing, many takes".
	* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jTUebm73IY ''Ways of Seeing'', part 4] on youtube.com		* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jTUebm73IY ''Ways of Seeing'', part 4] on youtube.com
	* [[File:John Berger Ways of Seeing.torrent]]		* [[File:John Berger Ways of Seeing.torrent]]

Martinwguy at 09:38, 30 September 2021

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	'The Dream of Later Tonight' and 'The Skin Dream' use textures lifted virtually unchanged from 'The After Life' and 'Amor Dei' respectively, whilst 'The Dream of a Faraway Place' sets new (Delaware/Synthi 100?) material derived probably from some interesting spectral study (not found elsewhere on the Attic tapes as far as I recall) against the third section of Amor Dei ("I'd like to believe in God, but...")<ref>James Percival in [https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1863983360324838&id=169766083079916&comment_id=1866013546788486 a comment on facebook] on 28th July 2018.</ref>		'The Dream of Later Tonight' and 'The Skin Dream' use textures lifted virtually unchanged from 'The After Life' and 'Amor Dei' respectively, whilst 'The Dream of a Faraway Place' sets new (Delaware/Synthi 100?) material derived probably from some interesting spectral study (not found elsewhere on the Attic tapes as far as I recall) against the third section of Amor Dei ("I'd like to believe in God, but...")<ref>James Percival in [https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1863983360324838&id=169766083079916&comment_id=1866013546788486 a comment on facebook] on 28th July 2018.</ref>
	</BLOCKQUOTE>		</BLOCKQUOTE>

			=Tapes=
			* [[DD272]]: Backgrounds

	=Availability=		=Availability=

Martinwguy at 14:09, 20 June 2021

2021-06-20T14:09:36Z

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	{{Thumb\|Ways of Seeing end credits}}		{{Thumb\|Ways of Seeing end credits}}
			{{Thumb\|Ways of Seeing - The Dream of Later Tonight}}
			{{Thumb\|Ways of Seeing - The Skin Dream}}
			{{Thumb\|Ways of Seeing - The Dream of a Faraway Place}}

	Delia is credited with "Special Sound" for the fourth and final part of a BAFTA award-winning 1972 BBC series of programmes [[Ways of Seeing]], produced and directed by [[Michael Dibb]],<ref>[http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/19260 The programme's entry in the BFI Film & TV database]</ref><ref>[[BBC Radiophonic Workshop - surviving work]] entry for [[TRW 7448]], credited to Malcolm Clarke/Delia Derbyshire</ref> in which John Berger "analyses the images of advertising and publicity and shows how they relate to the tradition of oil painting - in moods, relationships and poses."<ref name=thebox>[http://thebox.bz/details.php?id=54385 ''Ways of Seeing'' on thebox.bz]</ref>		Delia is credited with "Special Sound" for the fourth and final part of a BAFTA award-winning 1972 BBC series of programmes [[Ways of Seeing]], produced and directed by [[Michael Dibb]],<ref>[http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/19260 The programme's entry in the BFI Film & TV database]</ref><ref>[[BBC Radiophonic Workshop - surviving work]] entry for [[TRW 7448]], credited to Malcolm Clarke/Delia Derbyshire</ref> in which John Berger "analyses the images of advertising and publicity and shows how they relate to the tradition of oil painting - in moods, relationships and poses."<ref name=thebox>[http://thebox.bz/details.php?id=54385 ''Ways of Seeing'' on thebox.bz]</ref>